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1 - From the very beginning, Kleeneze do not advertise themselves when recruiting. They hide behind "WORK FROM HOME" & "EARN EXTRA INCOME" etc. NO MENTION THAT THEY ARE KLEENEZE. So you click on the link - what next - well, you are more than likely presented with a screen full of pictures - happy families on a beach with palm trees etc, and others in new cars (you get the picture). In the middle of all this you are asked to fill in your details. STILL NO real information. You fill in your personal info, then it starts - the text messages - the emails. STILL NO SIGN OF ANY REAL INFO! WHY?
2 - So you have now been given SOME info - how you can earn ££££'s. Sounds good so far, so you say you want to know more as you are very interested, what next? - You will need to see a distributor at your home. Thats ok so you arrange a day and time. So far so good. They come and see you, great. Now you get to know more about how you will earn from day one. Fantastic - where do you sign. BUT WAIT - near the end comes the bombshell(s) - In order to earn all this money you will need to recruit,recruit and recruit some more - then get your new recruits to recruit. There is a name for this - the new name is MLM. But the best is yet to come - All this WILL COST YOU - A LOT. You need to pay to start (although now they disguise this a bit). Then you need to pay for EVERYTHING as you go along. When i say everything i mean much more than the catalogues. So to recap - YOU PAY A COMPANY TO POST CATALOGUES, TO ORDER TO RECRUIT.....The list goes on.
3 - You have decided that its a good idea to pay kleeneze to distribute catalogues and do their recruiting. What next - You can go out into the world and make money - great - Or is it? Kleeneze distributors can go anywhere they want (inside the uk anyway). Thats great, or so you may think until you realise that you are in competition with all the other kleeneze distributors. If you are very unlucky 2, 3 or even 4 at a time. This is because Kleeneze distributors 'cherry pick' good customers. This is before you come across the betterware distributor. You will end up traveling miles between customers.
4 - Distributing of course is not enough (unless you are willing to put out 1000+ per week). So you NEED to recruit. You will have to do what your now up-line (sponsor) did to you. GOOD LUCK.
5. What they will never tell you is that kleeneze are owned by another company. This company own five in total, Kleeneze being one. There is only one in this group who are making a loss - KLEENEZE. Another thing to note is another one of these companies is STUDIO - who share the warehouse in Accrington, Lancashire with kleeneze (if you look at the Kleeneze and studio catalogues....)
1. You know almost straight away that it is Betterware (there are independent sites like privateye that send your details on). As soon as you know that it is Betterware you also know everything about being a Betterware distributor - NO PICTURES OF SUNNY HOLIDAYS - or pictures of distributors cheques saying they earn thousands of pounds. Betterware tell you how it is, no more - no less. This means you know exactly what being a distributor means from day one.
2. There is NEVER ANYTHING TO PAY - EVER. You will get everything you need - for free - when you need it. You do not have to do your own ordering - so no paying for website/delivery etc. No waiting in once a week for the courier to arrive. THIS ALL MEANS 100% OF YOUR EARNINGS (INCLUDING BONUSES) ARE YOURS. Betterware believe that a distributor should not pay them to deliver their catalogues.
3. You will have your own area which is best for you. You will build your area up. You provide a service to the community and become part of it. And the best bit - A BETTERWARE DISTRIBUTOR HAS NO COMPETITION - Why? Because no other distributors are allowed in their area and kleeneze distributors come and go while they 'cherry pick' so your area is your own.
4. Betterware is independent AND profitable. The have their own warehouse & head office and SHARE WITH NO-ONE.
5. No monthly meetings.....
So i ask the question - Which one would you work for?
All this information is correct and with only a little research you will find this and more.
Please DO NOT believe the recent reviews stating Kleeneze will work for you and you can earn thousands a month.
All these people are trying to do is get you to join. Its just a platform for recruiting.
DO NOT BELIEVE FOR ONE SECOND YOU CAN EARN BIG MONEY JUST OFF RETAIL.
The money you have to put 'back in' IS substantial.
When i went to the meetings (brainwashings), distributors would stand up and tell everyone how they did what they did. There were two gentlemen with a van working six full days a week just to make any real money.
One lady started delivering catalogues at 4.30 IN THE MORNING.
The 'Real' money is made from recruiting recruiting recruiting.
Kleeneze work on pyramid selling (circles if you've seen the sales pitch).
From day one you learn that customers come a distant second....recruit recruit recruit.....and then, if your very very very very lucky.... 'GOLD DISTRIBUTOR'.... woohoo!
I have been a Kleeneze distributor for about 3 months now. I joined for £50 and then 3 more monthly payments of £44 - I made this back and more in my first month (over £300) Now many of you will be dividing that figure by 4 and thinking along the lines of how much that is per week or per hour or whatever - STOP! you will never appreciate the true opportunity that this business has to offer if you think like that. When a beautiful building is being built, it IS a dirty messy building site to begin with. It's a bit like this with Kleeneze, you need to stick it out and build a customer base. Some people on here DO NOT KNOW what they are talking about - one person mentioned they delivered 50 catalogues! wow! that must have been really strenuous! you get out of something what you put in. try 200 a day and then take the rest of the day off - because in 6 months, you will have a great customer base, if you stick to the simple simple plan! all the people i've met are friendly, are positive, are optimistic and upbeat, because they know that their future can only be successful within the Kleeneze business, if you stick it out and stick to the plan! Simply. Doing it for one year, can provide a great income, but you have to work at it. There are so many testimonials from people I've met and had the pleasure of sharing their journey with me. or you could work for a boss and get moaned at for being 5 minutes late and stuff like that (not everyone) some people are doing great and I'm not saying that every business is not as good as Kleeneze, I'm saying that they are head and shoulders above ALL of the companies I've seen/worked in. Rank Xerox, Mitsubishi Electrics, Danish Bacon Company, Whitbread are just a few of the firms I've worked for, not even close on the incentives level. Not even close. check it out and do your homework before you come on here and SLAG IT OFF - thank you and good night.
i am a kleeneze distrubutor, i have only been doing it for 8 months i have a good customer base and bring in a good income for me. there is cost for the catalouges and other things you may need but the cost is very low. if you were to go and open your own shop it would cost alot more than it does with kleeneze. it is very flexible and my upline is always there if i need them. Plus the company do very good incentives such as free holidays, cars, catalouges ect. its the people that dont work not the company.
I have joined Kleeneze 3 times in my life. The first two times I joined I needed MONEY to help with debts thats had built up and I managed to get myself out of debt on both occassions and then I stopped promising myself that I would never get in that position. So little did I Know. I had managed to this through just retailing myself. My sponsors were of no support to me. Therefore Out of debt I gave up. This time around I have a great sponsor and she phones me up at least twice a week. I also now willing to help others to make money. If interested please visit www.ikan-ukan.com and then contact me
many people would love to be their own boss, but most either don't know how, or couldn't find the money if they did. kleeneze is a 'franchise', which means you get lots of support and training from both the company and your 'sponsors', that is the people who introduced you to the business, and their 'upline', (the people who sponsored them, and so on). most franchises cost thousands to 'buy into', i have heard that a modest mcdonalds restaurant will cost you about £100, 000 , and then you have to deal with unmotivated staff, and undesirables at pub chucking out time etc etc. we joined kleeneze on what is now called the 'business builder 200 (business kit, with 200 catalogues)', for under £200, about 4 years ago, as the job i had then was only seasonal, and i couldn't find anything else for the winter. during that month i had 2 other part time jobs, and put out, (and collected), about 500 catalogues a week . after 1 full month (4 week sales period), i had earned £490 (took me about 15 to 20 hours a week), i gave up one of the other part time jobs, as if i didn't i would have got the sack anyway, as i'd only sold 2 charity subscriptions in a month (3 days a week), i'm not a salesperson.
you will read many negative views on here about kleeneze from people who either didn't want to work, or haven't got a 'business mindset', currently we now earn around £900 a month from our kleeneze business, ( i only used to earn £800 a month in my full time job), and i work about 25 to 30 hours a week (i have had to give up full time work due to my disabled partner's health deteriorating), with kleeneze i can work hours around her hospital appointments etc which i couldn't do in a job. many people are earning much more than we do, as like any good franchise company you have the option of 'sponsoring' other people. you then train/coach them to do what you are doing, and when they earn money kleeneze pay you extra bonus, we have had a few team members in the past, however it is very difficult to find people with the vision and business mindset that is needed to get through the tough first few years. yes, there are expenses, however in a job you would have to pay tax, as a self employed person you can claim lots of things back from the tax man ie, car and telephone/computer expenses , also there is lots of help out there for self employed people , such as working tax credits. some people think you make money from what your team members do, but i can assure you this is not true, as kleeneze 'set aside' 57% of their profits to pay back to the distributor network, your team members will earn what they work for, if you help them earn, then kleeneze merely give you a bit more of that 57% pot, when your team members hit a bonus level, their bonus comes out of your bit of that 57%, so the more people you help, the bigger the bonus pot is, and you can earn up to 24% of it, plus if you help your people to earn the 24% you can then get up to 7% extra as an executive bonus . there are also car and holiday incentives to go for, and the guy that walked away with a brand new mini in january had only been in the business for 6 weeks. many people who have worked hard full time for 5 years are earning £5,000 to £7,000 every 4 weeks (these are quite common earnings in kleeneze, several are making far more).
i am quite happy to provide more information, or arrange for anyone to come along to one of our open meetings or the 'showcase' (held twice a year), just take a look at our website www.theflyingapplegroup.com/welcome and leave contact details, or phone 01462 889123
Kleeneze is a well respected business in the Work-From-Home or MLM industry. Reading the reviews below you see the good and the bad, but at the end of the day there are a lot of people doing very well from Kleeneze, so why is it not working well for others ?
I put it down to training and mindset which comes from experience and having the right support. Too often you hear of people starting a new business only to fail in the first six months. But in my view that is because they don't have the right training or support, and when I say support I mean not just the business support but support from your family. You should sit down with them and tell them what you want to do and how you need their support and energy to help you.
When I started my first business, my sponsor at the time told me to make a list of friends and family and start selling to them, then start knocking on doors in my local area and do the same. I found approaching my friends and family very embarrassing and they only bought from me out of charity rather than they needed the actual product. Knocking on doors, also known as 'cold calling' was worse as I got so much abuse and rejection that it just knocked my confidence. My experience now tells me that my sponsor was wrong.
People don't like to be sold to so you can see why the approach above did not work. Imagine being the other person, you are sitting down having your dinner when someone knocks at the door pushing their products in your face. It doesn't work does it. The ideal business is where people come to you because they know what they want and you don't have to do any selling at all.
If you decide to join Kleeneze or any other business in fact don't try and do it alone, my advice is find other people in your business, talk, meet up and share ideas. Don't think for one moment you have the winning idea and successful formula and not share it. In my experience for every idea I shared I got several back. As well as meeting and making new friends you will gain an extra level of knowledge and confidence from all that you have learnt.
Once your business is up and running never stop learning or investing in yourself, never think you know everything to run a successful business. Maybe look at ways to diversify your business by having multiple income streams, so if you have a bad month in one area of your business, another area has it covered.
I really hope you have found my review helpful as I certainly enjoyed writing it. I could go on about some of my other experiences but I think I will leave that to another review at a later date. Feel free to contact me, you can find my details by clicking on my name above or http://Paul-Ingram.com/
My ex has been working for these guys for over two years despite me warning her from day one that it would be a complete waste of her time and effort. Her 'uplines' initially gave her lots of encouragement but over the last year, due to them being aware of my views, they have not been pushy as they've been happy to see her producing some steady sales which help them to meet their own targets and alleviate the need to find yet another replacement.
I've read the positive reviews on here from Kleeneze distributors who are either full of initial enthusiasm (and a lack of business acumen) or who are sufficiently well up the line to be earning a reasonable income due to the fact that they took up this opportunity in its early days and make most of their money from the sweat of others.
It is easy putting catalogues out but it is NOT easy collecting them in and this is especially true of Kleeneze who do not allocate territories and thus cause a lot of ill-will not only with their potential customers but also within their own ranks. The fact that the catalogues cost you money and the fact that you also have to pay for the privilege of placing orders (a monthly internet charge) should warn anyone immediately that this business likes to make as much money out of its distributors as possible - not being content with the money they make from them with the sales.
After two years of working for Kleeneze my ex has built up a database of several hundred customers, a handful of which will place an order every time. Nonetheless her average order per period will be less than £300 and when you take out the £8 cost of the internet ordering and the petrol involved in distributing the catalogues, two/three attempts to collect them, the delivery of the orders and the banking of cheques then what you are left with equates to an hourly rate of pay which is a tiny fraction of the minimum wage!
For the first six months of this year my ex's net earnings after deduction of legitimate expenses (fuel, stationery, catalogue bags, etc) was £90 - £15 per month for at least 15 hours work!! Double the hours and you might just earn a £50 bonus which will still not equate to half the minimum wage.
It should be borne in mind that if you distribute 50 catalogues if you're lucky you might get around 10 orders (sometimes you can actually get none) but you will also lose a percentage of the catalogues - much higher in the early days and the cost of replacing these comes out of any profit you've made so initially you can actually be working for nothing!
I have worked for Betterware and I have far greater respect for their ethos and fairness towards their distributors but nonetheless they are still distributing catalogues selling over-priced goods that no one really needs to a diminishing customer base. The fact that they issue regular catalogues, free to their distributors, and ensure that there is no more than one person working in any one area gives you a greater opportunity for making money if you are doing it on the scale that my ex is.
I have also worked for Oriflame which has far more potential as cosmetics are something that women and men will always want and thus a monthly catalogue means a guaranteed regular income once you have established your initial customer base with the added bonus that there are no bulky items to deliver.
In these economic times and with the competition from both the internet and low cost high street shops I believe that the future for these catalogue companies is bleak and thus realistic earning opportunities are far removed from those suggested by the people doing the sponsoring/recruiting but if you are truly desperate to earn some money and are not adverse to hard, uncomfortable (in the winter) work and the abuse of householders tired of refusing catalogues then give it a go but don't say you haven't been warned.
We keep getting the booklets, I find them annoying due to I have a sticker on the door that clearly says we do not buy or sell at the door.
Kleeneze are one of those companies who for some reason do not respect that label and I have asked other distributors why they ignore it, to be told there are so many of them on the doors if they did they would not make any money, so ignore them.
Basically that means I am forced to once again politely hand the book back, but lately it is getting our of hand. I mean who needs three books in one week?
So when another one comes through today I look into who has put it through. There is a phone number and I research it online and find they live five miles away from us. Now I know there are local living suppliers but it seems lately distributors are coming around from wider and wider hence we get more and more brochures.
Have they not considered householders will find this irritating?
I do :)
My wife wanted to earn a bit of money. I suggested she try selling Kleeneze. A huge error of judgement.
We were told by Kleeneze that we would earn 82 pence per set of books delivered and collected on average; This was wildly inaccurate. We delivered and collected over 600 sets of catalogues over a 12 day period. We actually earned 8 pence per catalogue on average. We just managed to scrape the £75 pounds worth of orders to get the free delivery.
We lost 50% of the books we bought reducing the 8 pence to a loss. People are angry at having to keep putting the books out so they throw them away. Some customers chased us up the path telling us not to come back again and handing the books back. One person threw the packet of books at my wife and it landed on the grass narrowly missing her head. Most people dont want them ever. I would estimate that 1 person in 50 has some interest in the products some of the time.
We spent hours packing them. Oh yes! when they arrive they are all just in seperate boxes. You will have to print the slips too. It is very hard work for absolutely no return.
After 12 days we realised this was never going to work so we rang our agent at Kleeneze and told him we wanted cancel as within the terms of the Kleeneze policy of 14 days. He acknowledged this at the time. We fulfilled our customer orders and stopped delivering and collecting. Kleeneze didnt accept our cancellation. They refused to return our £185 pounds we had paid to start. I insisted and they offered to accept us paying them a further £73 pounds to clear our account to nil balance. I was outraged by this and after several letters they agreed to accept our cancellation and return our account to nil without further payment. this was ageed to but two weeks later theyput the £73 pounds debt in the hands of a recovery company and we were forced to pay it afterall.
Kleeneze is not a nice company, They are ruthless, greedy liars.
If you are thinking of giving them your money to try to make more money forget it.
Please be warned, We worked really hard for 12 days and lost money. You will too.
Whether it's Avon, Betterware or Oriflame - NONE of these companies can match what Kleeneze has to offer! Kleeneze has a lot more to offer and has been established since 1923!
I get fed up reading all the rubbish about comparing Betterware with Kleeneze. Kleeneze is unlike Betterware as it is a Network Marketing Company!
Betterware is NOT a Network Marketing Company!
That is why if you decide to build a business with Kleeneze then you can make a considerable income which is based on your own efforts. You can NOT do this with Betterware! As for the others...well, how many people do you know who have been successful with Avon or Oriflame? How many millionaires are there with these companies? ShoppingGenie etc???
So before you knock Kleeneze find out the facts first then you will know that you can achieve with Kleeneze if you are willing to put in the required effort.
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REAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE CHANGED THEIR LIVES!
Rubbish.I started Oriflame a few months ago with no outlay.You get up to 35% commission and free gifts worth around £12 every time you place an order of £125 or more.You should not have to pay to earn yourself a bit of spare cash.I have reached manager level in just 4 months,and I am hoping to get to the next level soon.Obviously,this takes a lot of hard work and commitment,but it will pay off.I have the best mentors(they probably would'nt mind if I phoned them in the middle of the night)!You also have customer care to deal with any problems.If you would like more info about joining Oriflame,please visit my homepage www.my.oriflame .co.uk/northwalesI am recruiting all over the U.K
My name is Wojtek, Polish living in UK for over 4 eyars. Over a decade ago we were part of Oriflame business in Poland. Great stuff, however our adventure with the business turned little sour. Long story. when I came to UK, I was always thinking that it would be great to find similar MLM company in UK. We found Kleeneze. We did start in 2009. We do it part time, when we want, and when we have a need. We do enjoy it. Is it for every one? No, even though anybody can do it. Kleeneze is not perfect. If someone will tell you they did find a perfect company they are either stupid or worse. But one thing Kleeneze isn't: it is not lying or deceiving people. You gain what you put in. I do recomend. Hard work? can be. Worth it? in my opinion yes.
I was very happy with the level of service and just how clean my home looks after Kleeneze's clean!Highly recommended and reasonably priced!!
I joined Kleeneze for 6 months. I am a single mother with 1 child and I was hoping that on the days when my child was at nursery I would be able to work a few hours and earn some extra cash. What appealed to me about Kleeneze was the flexible hours and the fact that essentially you are your own boss and can dictate when you want to work. With a young child, this was vital to me so I registered on the website and was put in contact with my local "upline"- sponsor if you like. My sponsor was a very nice lady who came round and essentially gave me a presentation about how much I could earn (£50- £500 a month apparently). I mentioned that due to me having sole care of my daughter I would only be able to put in a couple of hours a day and was reassured that this was fine and that I could still earn this amount. So I joined. I had to pay £80 for my starter kit of catalogues and wow they were so heavy. I had to then buy a Kleeneze trolley to carry them around as I would have hurt my back trying to use a bag. The first thing I found was that I actually quite enjoyed getting out and about in the fresh air- I had a couple of hours a day and I worked really really hard getting about 200 catalogues out per week. I was diligent about chasing up catalogues and delivering reminder slips to those who had forgotten to leave them out on the specified day. I was initially concerned about people being rude but I actually experienced very little rudeness and only a few people politely requested that they didnt want me to deliver the catalogue to them again. Fine. I was really pleased when I started getting orders in and very excited about my so-called "profit". After 4 weeks I realised that this "profit" is non-existent. I made £40 profit in my first week but minus the money I had spent on catalogues and the fact that I had to keep ordering more catalogues (due to them getting lost or chucked out) my regular profit evened out to about £43 per month. Quite frankly, considering I was working every single day in all weathers and also spending hours in the evening re-packaging and re-arranging new catalogues, not to mention going to the bank to pay in kleeneze cheques, delivering orders, managing refunds, etc etc I realised that I was putting in a HUGE amount of effort for £43 per month- PATHETIC. Now I dont claim that Kleeneze is a scam- its not but you have to realise that to make a decent profit you have to put in many hours of work on a daily basis to get you anywhere near the £50-500 that they tell you. In fact, I would imagine to make £500 a month you would have to be doing this pretty much full time. Its not a scam because you can make money from it BUT what I am angry about is the fact they lied to me- I was told that even if you can only put in 2 hours a day you can still make a good profit but this is simply not true. I worked my butt off in the time I had spare and I was still only making £43 profit per month after having to replace lost catalogues every month. I know a large part of Kleenze is recruiting other members and I advertised in local shops aswell as putting out leaflets with the catalogues and noone responded. I also came up against having 3 other kleeneze distributors in my area which made it really really hard. I had customers asking me why I was delivering to their house when they had specifically put a note in someone elses catalogue saying NO kleeneze!! The other thing I dont understand is that Kleeneze make a big thing about how they are an "equal opportunities" employer for people with disabilities etc.. How on earth could someone in a wheelchair or a mobility problem go up and down people's front steps to deliver catalogues??? The catalogues are extremely heavy and I pulled my back out a few times trying to lug them into the car and dragging them around in the trolley (which broke twice btw). I found it hard enough and I dont have a disability!!
All in all, I dont think Kleeneze is a scam BUT they are NOT entirely honest with people either- in order to make a decent profit at this, you need to be putting in at least 5+ hours every day which for me is just not possible. Make no mistake that Kleeneze have their own interests at heart first of all- they make massive profits whilst throwing a few pounds in the direction of the distributors. Yes, people can make money from Kleeneze but if you compare how much profit you have generated for Kleeneze in comparison to how much actually goes in your pocket - its actually shocking and more than a little depressing. I will not be doing Kleeneze again- hours and hours of work for £43 a month is simply not worth it.