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Watch The Throne - Jay-Z & Kanye West

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Genre: Hip-Hop & Rap / Artist: Jay-Z & Kanye West / Audio CD released 2011-08-12 at Mercury

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      07.05.2012 17:03
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      Don't just watch the throne, Listen to it!

      Two of the biggest names in the rap game. Jay-Z, who many say is the greatest of all time (big claim, not sure I agree) and Kanye West, who in my opinion has not made a bad album yet! These two have had lots of songs together and most are classics (Diamonds remix anyone!). So how do they work together on a whole album together? I will review each track and at each track say who I feel was the 'King' of that track. It needs to be rememebered that Kanye produced all but 4 tracks on this album so although his raps may not be as good as Jay but his contribution is more.

      No Church in the Wild - I'm glad Jay-Z was the one to open the album. In my opinion it shouldn't have been any other way. I was immediately hooked in to the beat, the filtered guitar and pulsing beat makes for a monstrous opening to the record. I also noticed this track contains the first of many James Brown samples on this album. Anyways, both rappers deliver solid verses, but Jay-Z takes the throne on track one for owning the beat.
      Score: 8/10; King: Jay-Z

      Lift Off - I've never been a fan of Beyonce, and usually try to avoid songs that she's featured on if possible. This track proves no exception, and Kanye's terribly autotuned verse furthers my disliking of this song. Even Jay-Z, the autotune killer's verse uses it. I had hopes that he could could salvage the song, though his "verse" really isn't even a verse at all. The countdown at the end sounded pretty cool though and the beat is decent. I guess Kanye wins this track simply because Jay-Z's not even really on it.
      Score: 2/10; King: Kanye West

      N***** In Paris - Back to the good music now. Jay-Z once again spits first, delivering a decent verse with a nice flow. According to the official lyrics, Kayne apparently says "That s*** crazy" on the hook, but for some reason it comes out sounding more like "That s*** cray." The lyrics could possibly be misprinted though and the actual lyrics could be "That s***'s crack." Kanye's verse is solid and he sounds his best during the distorted breakdown at the end. Pretty good song overall. Oh, and love the Blades of Glory sample.
      Score: 9/10; King: Jay-Z

      Otis - A classic Otis Redding sample. Perhaps not as good as the one on "Gone" but still good enough to make a great beat. Jay-Z once again spits first, though this time the two pass the mic back and forth instead of spitting separate verses. Love that about this song. The only thing I don't care for much is the borderline disturbing scream at the end of the song. Great song despite that though. And even though the beat sounds like more of a Jay-Z type beat, Kanye spits hard on "Otis" earning himself the crown on this track.
      Score: 7/10; King: Kayne West

      Gotta Have It - One of my favorite tracks on the album, mostly because of the beat and the way both rappers flow over it. Once again, both rappers pass the mic back and forth and for the most part only spit one line at a time. I enjoy this style of collaborating mostly because it reminds me of the way Em and Dre used to do tracks back in the day.
      Score: 9/10; King: Both

      New Day - I feel like the sample on this track is a bit too high in the mix, and it is quite distracting during the verses. Despite this, the verses are great. Both emcees return to spitting separate verses, but they each have their own stories to tell. I was especially pleased at Kanye displaying a slightly less arrogant side, even going as far as admitting that he does not want his son to grow up with an ego.
      Score: 7/10; King: Kanye West

      That's My B**** - Great beat, the upbeat tribal sounding drums, vintage Atari-esque synth and turntable scratches give the track a modern but old school sound that's quite catchy. I can't decide which rapper owned this track; Kanye is slightly more present on it but both delivered great verses.
      Score: 8/10; King: Both

      Welcome to the Jungle - This track already earns 5 points by not containing a single Guns N' Roses sample. That would have been entirely too predictable and been a negative for the track. In fact, there are no jungle-sounding sounds anywhere to be found on this track. Despite being a bit repetitive, the beat is actually pretty nice. And this is primarily a Jay-Z track, like how "Lift Off" was primarily a Yeezy track, so obviously our boy Hova gets the crown. Oh, and that weird postlude from track one is back for no apparent reason. Anyone care to explain that?
      Score: 8/10; King: Jay-Z

      Who Gon Stop Me? - The sample and intro make this song sound like the beginning of a dance remix song. In reality, it's a pretty slow track. Well, at least it is at first. Halfway through the song the beat suddenly shifts to a more upbeat electronic track and Jay-Z comes in and fries the circuit board with his verse. Kanye's verse was lyrically great, but unfortunately, when the track's over we completely forget that he even had a verse. Sorry Yeezy.
      Score: 9/10; King: Jay-Z

      Murder to Excellence - Okay, Okay, Kanye makes a comeback on this song, but he doesn't manage to completely pull the crown back in his direction. This is mainly because both rappers bring lyrical excellence here. Solid track, both lyrically and beatwise.
      Score: 9/10; King: Both

      Made in America - There's no doubt Kanye West thought up this beat while standing in an elevator. I shouldn't have to explain that, just listen to it for yourself. It's a great beat though. Simple and atmospheric. I don't know who will agree with me, but this track definitely sounds like the "Lighters" of Watch the Throne. Nice track.
      Score: 8/10; King: Kanye West

      Why I Love You - I was hoping I'd have a chance to drop a 10/10 on something from this album. Just so you know, I done give a song a perfect ten unless I'm under the opinion that it truly deserves it. This song does. The beat is epic, Jay-Z is teriffic. Even though Kanye doesn't contribute much to this track, he is still present to assist Jay-Z in ending the album.
      Score: 10/10; King: Jay-Z

      Whether you like Jay-Z and Kanye West or not, the album is still solid enough to be worth at least one listen for the unfan. I'm more a Kanye fan then a Jay fan but Jay does that little bit more in the rap department on this album to be claimed king!

      Overall Score: 8.5/10; Claimer of the Throne: Jay-Z

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        14.09.2011 23:41
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        The kings are here however, and perhaps they should think about crashing the next coronation... especi

        2nd June 1953, the coronation of Queen Elizabeth II, but I don't believe this is the same throne that Jay Z and Kanye West are keeping their eyes on. In fact, should we have any coronations in the near future I advise we keep Kanye away after his recent performances at award ceremonies. "Hell no, I should be King!"

        'Watch The Throne' is a collaborative effort from both the rappers and one of the most highly anticipated albums of the year. I have to admit; I'm not a fan of efforts like this. Eminem tried it earlier this year with Royce da 5'9" (Bad Meets Evil), and Bow Wow teamed up with Omarion to give a joint album a go in 2007.
        Kanye is well known for his ego, so I feel comfortable in saying that there is no one else alive in the business that he would agree to do a joint album with, except Jay Z. Being the biggest name in rap at the moment, if anyone can reign in Kanye, it's Jay. Only problem is Kanye is known for his off the wall, creative twists he throws on his music. Could some of that wear off here?

        No Church in the Wild (ft. Frank Ocean) is the opening track to the album, and it has that cowboy boots in the sand ready for a stand off sound to the production (if that's possible). As Jay raps, Kanye cuts in half way through about love being his scripture. A solid opening then takes us on to Lift Off (featuring Beyonce), which must be a strong contender for the next single and features the sultry vocals of Mrs. Jay Z. She says that they are taking it to the moon, to the stars and asks how many other people you know that could take it this far? Beyonce has worked with both her husband and Kanye previously, so she was always a sure thing to feature on the album, and she definitely adds a commercial edge that can bring in more sales.
        What did Jay Z say about the Death of Autotune on his Blueprint 3 album, because Kanye has already reintroduced it on this album. N*ggas in Paris is quite honestly all a bit of a blur, and more of a straight up rap affair with a bit of production. Otis (ft. Otis Redding) is the second single released from the project and has already been at 12 on the US Billboard. More surprising I feel is that the track has already entered the UK charts at 38, as this is not the song I would expect British listeners to respond to. Clearly people are responding to the Otis and James Brown sampling.

        Gotta Have It continues on perfectly, something that these artists seem to repeatedly do. This is the only track on the album to feature Pharrell Williams as a writing credit and The Neptunes on production. It continues along with the James Brown sample. Clearly they have a thing about sampling on this album, as New Day borrows from Nina Simone's Feeling Good although this is more limited to the background. That's My Bitch probably doesn't come as that much of a shocking track title given one we had earlier, and this sounds like a standard Kanye song ("I bought dem t*tties, get your own"). By the time Jay comes in you've forgotten it's even a joint album, and Kanye has definitely been the superior rapper thus far.
        Welcome to the Jungle is almost a little too close to the bone of what you'd expect from a rap track, with the added "uhs" you can almost picture them, swaying backwards and forwards grabbing their junk. And it pains me to say this, as Jay, and especially Kanye, aren't usually so predictable. This track even throws out a mention to Michael Jackson. If that isn't run of the mill, I don't know what is. Who Gon Stop Me on the other hand is a little more crazy, in your face, and almost a remix away from being a dance track.

        Murder to Excellence is like two tracks in one, with the first half being produced by Swizz Beats and the second by S1 (who is most well known for his recent work with Kanye West and Beyonce on 'Power' and 'Best Thing I Never Had' respectively). A lot of spitting about 'black on black' murder here and the war going on outside, which is quite ironic given the recent London riots and around the UK. So with the negative aspects of the black community addressed by Kanye, Jay then commits his half to the excellence of his race. As you would expect, there's the reference to church. Made in America (ft. Frank Ocean) is the second time Frank has appeared on the album, with this leap of faith by Jay and Kanye to include him on their album probably proving to be the platform he needs to leap as a solo star. This is possibly the softest I've heard the album so far, "Sweet baby Jesus, you were made in America." And any time you hear Kanye mention his mother you know he's being sincere. I really like this track and it would make a good next single, however it may be one of those that stays as an album track and remembered for all the right reasons. You don't even have to wave the star spangled banner to appreciate this. Mr Hudson probably hasn't fulfilled his potential, but he gets another shot by featuring on the last track of the standard edition of the album - Why I Love You. And just as the album started strongly, it's going to end on a high. Jay seems to be a believer when it comes to Hudson, so needless to say he takes the lead on this.
        Illest Motherf*cker Alive is the first of four bonus tracks on the deluxe edition, and it reminds me somewhat of something you would have heard on Kanye's last Dark Twisted Fantasy album. The moving on to HAM (Horny Ass Men), it was the first single to be released from the album but it didn't exactly grab anyone's inspirations. Having said that, it did peak at 23 on the US Billboard and a very healthy 30 in the UK. Clearly the star power behind the names did it good. Primetime is something both these stars know a lot about, but as far as making a track out of it there's not much to say. The Joy (ft. Curtis Mayfield) closes the album, being the second deceased artist on the album, it's nice to see them paying homage to some lesser-known stars that obviously inspired them.

        All in all there are some moments of rap brilliance on the album, but very few radio friendly tracks - especially with some of their choice of words. That's not to say that the raps aren't lyrically sublime, and if you are a fan of this genre then you should go out and buy it. No doubt this album will fit right in with what the American mark loves, and I doubt the exclusive deal to Best Buy that independent retailers have been up in arms about should affect their sales. If you liked tracks such as Jay Z's 'Run This Town' with Rihanna and Kanye West's 'Stronger', you will be disappointed that there is nothing on this album that in any way relates to that. This is for die-hard Jay Z fans, and it's almost slightly upsetting to see Kanye slightly reigned in by his mentor.

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        24.08.2011 00:19
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        pretty good but not quite a classic

        Introduction

        Kanye West and Jay Z are two of the heavyweights of the hip hop arena. When these two announced they were to collaborate on a new album there was certainly plenty of hype and expectation surrounding this. They don't have much to prove individually as they have both been pretty successful in their own right already. It was interesting though to see how they would work together and whether what they produced would be any good. Watch the Throne is the resulting album which was released in August 2011.I will give my thoughts on each track then an overall view.

        Track by track:

        01 No Church in the Wild (ft. Frank Ocean)- with some strong vocals from singer Frank Ocean this opening song is a decent if not spectacular start to the album. Song has good bass and drums for the backdrop. 4/5

        02 Lift Off (ft. Beyoncé)- seems like the real pop song off the album with Beyonce who has a great voice and vocals. I am not totally convinced with how the song comes off overall though and how they work together as a trio. 3.5/5

        03 N***as in Paris-they are both "ballin so hard" on this one. Great beat on this one and they trade lyrics pretty well. 4/5

        04 Otis (ft. Otis Redding)- First single I believe off the album which also has a video which seems to show off their wealth as they seem to destroy a flashy car. They show off their swag in this one . Features a sample from soul singer Otis Redding. Its ok but not the best song for me 3.5/5

        05 Gotta Have It- seems more like a skit at just over 2 minutes long. Good beat and they both trade lyrics with each other pretty well. 4/5

        06 New Day-This is one of the best songs on the album and it samples Nina Simone's 'New Day'. This song also includes what they will and will not do to better raise their unborn sons. And I'll never let my son have an ego,He'll be nice to everyone, wherever we go." More heartfelt song with meaning and this is why it is one of the stronger songs off the album. 4.5/5

        07 That's my bitch- not really liking this one. Has a James Brown sample but does not really seem to work well for me. 2.5/5

        08 Welcome to the Jungle- Another decent track with a good beat from Swizz Beatz.Here they shed some light on some of the darkness involved with their lifestyle. 4/5

        09 Who Gon Stop Me- Another pretty average song. 3.5/5

        10 Murder to Excellence- One of the best if not best track on album and another produced with the aid of Swizz beatz. Talks about black on black crime and seems to be the most socially conscious/political song on the album." I feel the pain in my city wherever I go. 314 soldiers died in Iraq, 509 died in Chicago" 4.5/5

        11 Made in America(ft. Frank Ocean)- Another good hook from Frank Ocean and is about how both Kanye and Jay Z made it in America and have become successful. This one works pretty well but not great overall. 4/5

        12 Why I Love You (ft. Mr Hudson)- Here Jay Z is rapping about those who turned on him after he became successful. Another pretty average track. 3.5 /5

        Overall

        It does seem like Jay Z and Kanye are really showing off their wealth and their grandeur in this album. Looking at some of the earlier tracks on the album, this does seem to be clearly the case. In these economic times it seems to be a bit over the top. Going beyond this though and scratching beyond the surface there is more socially conscious material to be found such as addressing black on black crime in Murder to Excellence . On "Made in America", they are mentioning the hardships of youth and coming of age. "New Day" is made like a letter to the pairs unborn sons. This gives them a vehicle to criticise themselves and what they would do better. They are able to come across as being empathetic even though they are wealthy and successful. I would give this album between 3 and 4 stars. If I had to choose I would just about give it 4 stars. It is not great but it is better than a lot of other commercial stuff out there in this genre especially.

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      Disc #1 Tracklisting
      1 No Church in The Wild (ft. Frank Ocean)
      2 Lift Off (ft. Beyoncé)
      3 Niggas in Paris
      4 Otis (ft. Otis Redding)
      5 Gotta Have It
      6 New Day
      7 Prime Time
      8 Who Gon Stop Me
      9 Murder to Excellence
      10 Welcome to The Jungle
      11 Sweet Baby Jesus (ft. Frank Ocean)
      12 Love You So (ft. Mr Hudson)