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      16.08.2011 02:59

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      A unique city I think but quite a lot of bad areas

      Since moving here from Belfast in 2007, I'd say I've grown to feel at home in Dundee. I would still say I prefer Belfast but Dundee's a grand wee place too. The main criticisms I have about it are vandalism and dangerous drug takers or "jakies/gadgies" as they say locally. I live in the Lochee area so I know about this. I am a grown man of 19 and I have on more than one occasion felt "watched" as I was coming along the street after 8pm. The number of young people smoking is extraordinary. The number of very young mums (about 15 I'd say) is pretty common here. In Belfast it's kinda similar but I have to say you really notice it in Dundee. For a small city Dundee has a lot of homeless people and a huge drug problem. I see a lot of "winos" hanging about Lochee high street (the rare times I go there!) Also I think that the Wellgate center is a sorry state of a shopping mall. The only decent shop is BHS. There was a music shop which I liked but like most shops in the Wellgate, it shut down! And don't even get me STARTED on the Stack! The only thing there now is the Gala bingo center, and until recently, the Megabowl, which shut down, presumably due to lack of business. I live not too far from there and I hate thinking about that Megabowl, Busters diner, Buzz Bar, Odeon, Fatty Arbuckles and the poor Tesco just sitting there all dilapidated!!! I would be very happy if someone bought over even just one of the places there and either renovated one of the diners or reopened the once popular Odeon cinema! That would not only be handy, but it would attract business!

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      29.10.2009 11:18
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      Dundee has lots to offer but shopping isn't one of them

      Dundee...Shopping Dundee is one of Scotlands largest cities. It also has it's fair share of shops. Which range from small independant retailers to large chain stores. The shopping areas in Dundee are spread over different areas. You have 2 shopping malls. The Wellgate Centre and The Overgate Centre. The Wellgate Centre It has had a couple of revamps over the past 30 years but could maybe do with a bit of a spring clean. It has BHS which is probably the biggest shop in the centre along with TGHughs. I would say about 60% of the centre is occupied by shop outlets. Shops are spread over 3 levels. It also has its oven car park linked to the centre, which makes it easier to get items back to you car especially when it is pouring with rain. It is open 7 days a week. Unfortunately the wellgate has a few food outlet and the centre has a bit of a "chip" smell about it. This I would say was the main down side of the centre. Overgate Centre The newest and most stylish centre in Dundee. Contempary in design and on 2 levels, offers a good range of stores mainly catering for younger customers. There are many shops including Debenhams, Argos, Primark, Boots, Next, New Look, River Island, French Connection, Lush, H&M etc There are several coffee shops as well as Burger King and Baked Potato shop. Probably the best shopping centre in Dundee. It has its oven linked car park also. The two shopping centres are located at different sides of the main shopping in the town it only takes 5 minutes to walk from one to the other. In between the 2 centres is the Murraygate. Murraygate Area linking the 2 main centres, this is open and pedestrianised area. Lots of different shops including a Tesco Metro, Marks & Spencers,Clarks, Thornotons, Disney and many mobile phone outlets. The journey from the Wellgate to Overgate will take you past most of the main shops but there are streets which branch off and have other stores including a few independant outlets. I would say that majority of the shops are large named stores and very few independant ones. Which is a shame. If you like supporting local business then shopping isn't going to be the one. If you want to do that you need to travel to Perth who have many many independants shops. There are many other Retail Parks ~ Kingsway Retail Park and also Gallaghers Retail Park. This are located out with the main shopping area but both have good access and free parking. Over all Dundee offers most of the large stores that you see around most cities. If you are looking for a good shopping experience then Dundee isn't really the place to go. You wont really find anything different here. People and staff are friendly enough, the overall area is not stylish or modern or even old y world. It is just ordinary. It is a bit on the dirty side although a lot of money has been put into the centre and there are big plans for re devolpement of the water front. I hope this will encourage new business into Dundee. At the moment it is a bit run down, but has protential. Thanks for reading my review, Dundee has lots to offer but I just reviewed the shopping side of it. There are plenty of attractions for visitors which you will find very interesting. But if you enjoy shopping then Dundee isnt really the place to do it. Thanks again

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        26.10.2009 18:38
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        better place to visit than to live in

        Dundee is a Scottish city situated on the east coast, a few miles inland, on the north bank of the river Tay. The Tay separates it from Fife (although road and rail bridges now connect the city to the Kingdom) and approaching over the bridge gives perhaps the best view of the fantastic situation of the city. It certainly looks good from a distance, though the skyline is still marred by some dreadful tower blocks. Although surrounded by the farming counties of Angus and Perthshire, Dundee is not an overgrown market town like Perth up the river: the original mercantile burgh whose prominence was built on the sea trade with the Low Countries and the Baltic transformed completely during the industrial revolution period into something of a mill-town monstrosity: the wealth of the Dundee rich and the misery of its teeming tenements arose from the jute trade. Dundee is known for the Three J's - the first being jute, the second jam (though it was really marmelade) and the third journalism, of which the best known are the Thomson comics Beano, Dandy and others. Historically, Dundee owed its original prosperity to its sea-trade with Northern Europe. In the 19th century, Dundee's port was of huge importance, its expansion linked to the jute trade from India and the south Atlantic whaling. By 1870, over 200 ships and 18 whalers were registered at Dundee docks. Dundee is Scotland's fourth largest city and perhaps the most unloved of them all, known by the derogatory nickname of Scumdee. I can't help but think that this is connected to the fact that the modern Dundee developed (if this is the right word) as an industrial boom town, its mills staffed mainly by women and children, its streets mean and its jute barons choosing to live out of town, in the wealthy suburbs towards Broughty Ferry. Modern Dundee is still quite shabby in places and very post-industrial in the bad sense of the expression. This is somehow balanced by the presence of a two (OK, one and a half) universities, large and well-regarded teaching hospital and a host of cultural institutions. For a tourist or casual visitor, Dundee, although definitely not a top Scottish destination (and not a city in which one would necessarily want to live), has quite a few points of interest and is worth a visit if you are in the area, as well as being potentially a good base for further explorations. ** City's main museum and art gallery, McManus Galleries, are currently (2009) undergoing refurbishment, but offer a good collection of historical exhibits and older art and promise to be much updated and better on re-opening. Verdant Works is a museum-attraction that allows the visitors to experience and learn about jute industry in Dundee and the life in the mill town. Dundee brands itself a "city of Discovery" and the RRS Discovery takes the pride of place on Dundee's river front, with a wonderful modern museum/exhibition centre at Discovery Point: all in all probably the best Dundee attraction for the whole family, from children to adults. Still on the naval theme, frigate Unicorn - the oldest wooden man of war still afloat - is worth a look, moored on the other side of the Tay bridge from the Discovery Point, and near new shopping areas at City Quays. Sensation, a modern hands-on science centre modeled on Glasgow's Stratosphere, concentrates on the physics and physiology of the senses and is an excellent if expensive example of the edutainment type of attraction: most appropriate for 7-11 year olds, but younger and older children (but probably not many teenagers or adults) will find it fascinating. Mills Observatory, located on the Balgay Hill, is the only observatory in the United Kingdom to have been built specifically for public use and is free to visit, with various activities and exhibitions on offer. Dundee's Contemporary Arts Centre is at the heart of Dundee's cultural life, with excellent exhibitions (free of charge), arts cinema, all kinds of classes and activities and a good cafe. Dundee Rep is a home to Dundee Rep Ensemble, Scotland's only full time, acting company as well as the home base of Scottish Dance Theatre and a venue for many visiting productions and creative learning activities. ** Dundee has some good natural spaces, from the riverside walk to an excellent Camperdown Country Park, complete with a good small zoo (very reasonably priced and great for children), excellent playpark with a boating lake and a golf course. University of Dundee Botanic Garden is not perhaps world-class, but a very pleasant nevertheless, with a herb garden, extensive area of parkland and two large greenhouses as well as a good cafe. The Dundee Law (law means hill in Gaelic), a focal point of the city, topped by a Cenotaph, is worth a visit for fantastic views over the Tay estuary and beyond to Fife. ** Dundee can be also used a base for exploring the surrounding areas, as it has good transport links and is surrounded by attractive countryside and historic towns. Nearby Broughty Ferry, now a suburb of the city, has a bit of a beach and an attractive riverside castle (Broughty Castle), now a museum and free of charge. Close to the castle is another fantastic adventure playpark for children young and older. Golf is available in Monifieth and further on in world-renowned Carnoustie, while St Andrews with all its attractions (including, but by no means limited to golf) is only about 45 minutes drive away and connected by bus service. Arbroath, home of the declaration of Arbroath and the ruins of the Arbroath Abbey as well as beautiful, red sandstone cliffs (the cliff top path offers a good if occasionally precarious walk) is connected to Dundee by a regular and frequent bus service while nearby St Vigans has a good collection of Pictish stones. Some visitors might want to go to Glamis (overpriced and not really worth it, unless you are a Royalty-obsessed American), but not far from Glamis is the area of Angus Glens, five glens (valleys) parallel to each other, all of them beautiful and offering plenty of walking opportunities, from easy, level ambles in Glen Isla to tackling the easternmost Munro (mountain over 3,000 feet) in Scotland, Mt Keen, whose ascent starts in Glen Esk.

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          28.05.2008 18:02
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          It has been the case for a long time that Dundee's wealth and prosperity was built on the three J's. Jute,which was imported into the city from India and Pakistan, was spun and then woven in the manufacture of bags used in packaging. Jam which was produced at the world famous Keiller's factory. Journalism was significant, not least for the huge plant of D C Thomson, perhaps still best known as the producers of The Beano. Dundee remains a large city boasting like Edinburgh and Glasgow two premier league football teams. This winter will also see the opening of a new ice rink to replace the one closed 5 years ago. Dundee has many nice hotels. At the expensive end is the Swallow on the outskirts of the city and the Earl Grey close to the waterfront and the railway station. The Earl Grey is particularly expensive and poor value. It does have a casino complex adjacent to it but the most certain bet is that the Earl Grey is waste of money. Better value are the 3 hotels run by Bett Inns. They have the Invercarse Hotel close to the University and the Woodlands out in Broughty Ferry. A little further out is the Panmure in Monifieth. I have stopped at both the Invercarse and Woodlands and found them to be good value, comfortable and with reasonable menus for dinner. The Woodlands can get a bit busy in the evening particularly when holding rotary nights and similar events. There are also three Travel Inn lodges including one close to Discovery Quay. The one close to the quay is perfectly placed for the city centre, railway station and Olympia leisure centre. Of the 3 lodges this one inevitably gets full first so if you know you are heading for Dundee book ahead if you want this one. For things to do in Dundee there is the leisure centre with all the amenities you want including swimming pool with flumes. During the day the Discovery Quay area has the original ship which took Scott to the Antarctic with an informative educational display about the voyage and the Antarctic. There is a working Jute Mill called Verdant Mills which you can visit to learn about that part of Dundee's history. Nightlife is quite vibrant with masses of pubs and clubs offering all types of entertainment. There is an Indian restaurant called The Jahangir close to the city centre. I cannot recommend this. I always believe that there is a law of inverse food quality in Indian/Pakistani restaurants and that is the posher the surroundings the worse the food. The plainer the décor the better the food. The Jahangir is very posh including a door greeter in traditional dress. The food was bland and dull though. Dundee does have a lot of poverty, like many UK cities. But I have always found it a vibrant city full of honesty and integrity whose people are as friendly as you would wish.

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            04.06.2001 04:49
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            Im going to give you my guide of thing to do in Dundee!! SHOPPING- There is two main shopping centres both within a few streets of each other with shops in-between in two. The first is the Wellgate, which inclueds Virgin music store,McDonalds,Mark One,T K Maxx,Logo for less,Clairs ect.theWellgate is 3 floors full of great stores which are full of great things inclueding on the 4th floor the main childrens libary for Dundee. The other centre is the Overgate which inclueds Gap,Next,Oasis,H&M,Superdrug, and other top store. Again is a great place to shop. Both are in the centre of the city. NATURE- For the best place to get "fresh air" is Camperdown which has a great zoo,park for the kids,golf corse,nature walks, stabels and a duck pond (which was my favorite thing about the place when i was little!!!) And the park is full of Friendly people having fun. HISTORY- If you are one of the people who like the history of Britian type of thing Dundee is the place for you. Dundee is just a working peoples city and still has alot of evidence of when Dundee was a very large and very important city in Scotland. You can Visit the ship The Discorvery which was the second boat to ever reach the South Pole and is a great thing to visit(trust me).There is a museam called the Verdon Works which is all about the working people of Dundee who worked in the jute mills. FOR FUN- A great ice rink has just opened in Dundee which is on the out-skirts near Camperdown which is great fun for those who can skate. Dundee also has 3 great Cinemas and a great bowling alley and alot more besides!! Dundee is full of culture and history and doesnt take long to find as it is all around so why not go to Dundee and Discover for yourself!!!! "DUNDEE CITY OF DISCOVERY"

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              I have listed a variety of points about my home town, hopefully there's something relivant to everyone. Dundee was the home port of the Antarctic exploration ship RRS Discovery, the historic vessel which took Captain Robert Scott to Antarctica. Hence Dundee's slogan - "City of Discovery" The Mills Observatory on Dundee's Balgay Hill is Britain's only full-time public observatory. (I've not visited for a while but have fond memories of a neat electronic model of the solar system) The "Law" (the hill around which Dundee is built) is a dormant volcanoe. It provides a great view of Dundee, the River Tay and surrounding area. The Tay Railway Bridge is the longest railway bridge in Europe at just over 2 miles. Dundee has two Universities and various colleges - there are loads of students around! Abertay University (formally Dundee Institute of Technology) was the first in the UK to offer a degree devoted soley to developing computer games. Dundee has 59 parks - thats more acres of parkland per head of population that anywhere else in the UK! In case there's not enough to do in Dundee: You can get to Scotlands 3 major cities (Edinburgh, Glasgow and Aberdeen) in under 2 hours. Like whiskey? there are various destilleries within short travelling distance, the closest that I know of being 20 miles away in Perth. Anstruther home of Scotland's best chippie (chip shop to non-Scots) is a good place to stop between Dundee and Edinburgh. Dundee is close to a lot of golf courses, the most famous being St Andrews - which is a lovely place with lots to offer other than Golf. Visit Arbroath and try a "Smokie" (very tasty).

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              02.04.2001 02:17
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              I've decided to give an unbiased view on my home city,Dundee the city of discovery as it is appropriately called as it is home of the H.M.S Discovery captained by Captain Scott on his Arctic adventures.Along with the Discovery there is another boat nearby called the Frigate Unicorn which i beleive is the only floating Frigate in the U.K at least. Both these attractions can be visited by the public.I have personally never visited any of them but the Discovery is said to be well a worth a visit.Nearby the Discovery beside the 'Silvery Tay' (which actually does look silver in the sunlight until you approach it and it is actually sadly a black/green colour due to pollution)is the Olympia leisure centre which has 2 main pools one of which is a training pool and the other is a fun pool with all the usual attractions like whirlpools,waves and various water slides. Moving away from the water front is the city centre which has a wide and varied selection of shops to suit almost every need including the new multimillion pound Overgate centre also the Wellgate centre. Other attractions include 2 cinemas and also an ice rink and bowling alley. I couldn't possibly write an opinion on Dundee without mentioning some of it's history. Most famously is probably the three J's,Jute,Jam and Journalism.Jute was an important source of industry in dundee as many mills were situated in the city,you can still see some of the ruins to this day,(I was told a story about the mills by my grandad which i will mention later).Jam was also important for industry as Kerr's jam was based in Dundee and journalism due to D.C Thomsons which produces local papers as well as more famously the Beano and the Dandy comics. Dundee also has many ghost stories as it is rich with ruins and ancient castles. The story my grandad told me concerns a mill which is ironically called 'The Coffin Mill' in which many years ago a girl was dragged in to a machine and killed and supposedly to the day she can be seen walking and overpass where the mill stands every night on a specific date(which i cannot remember).There are supposedly a few haunted castles in the city for example Claypotts castle allegedly houses witches and demons and just along the road from me is Caird park castle which is now a restaurant is also meant to be haunted. I was told a story by my mum about a house just down the street from me which was exorcised as it was haunted.the people heard a childs shouting and items in their house kept getting moved around so they had a priest exorcise the flat after which nothing happened.They then found out a young boy was killed on that site many many years ago. As with every city there are disadvantages and Dundee is no exception.In the housing schemes violence is an issue as there are gangs who fight against each other and there are some schemes i would not walk in.The police have installed CCTV to these trouble areas to try and reduce the problem.As i mentioned earlier pollution is also quite a big problem. Problems set aside Dundee is still a good place to visit as it has attractions for all ages and has some great landscapes and historic buildings.

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                15.03.2001 01:28

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                Dundee is a nice place to live in, with many shops and things to do. It can't claim to be the cleanest city, but has a facinating history, and year after year wins the award for "Britains Best Recycling City". The road bridge is the biggest in Britain while the rail bridge is Europe's biggest! "Hudsen"s opinion is a little too over the top, I think - I've lived here for about 13 years and know what it's like - a good place to stay, it has lots of attractions and events. Also, it's the perfect place for computer enthusiasts!, with many locally run shops and a regular computer fair. See for yourself - discover Dundee and have a great day out!

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                02.11.2000 04:13
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                A true story: DARLINGTON: late 20th century: Diane Brownlea, aged three and a half, said to her granny, "I'm going to visit my granny in Dundee now." "You don't have a granny in Dundee," said granny. "No," said Diane, "I mean my other granny that I used to go to see in Dundee when I was a little girl before, when I went on the train over the big bridge." Granny tried to explain that Diane had absolutely no connections with Dundee or Scotland. "I lived in Scotland," said Diane, "when I was here before and my granny lived in Dundee." A month later, Diane said to her Darlington granny, "I fell into the water when i went to see granny in Dundee. I was with my other daddy and we all fell into the water when we were on the train." On 28 December 1879 part of the Tay Railway Bridge collapsed and a passenger train fell into the river. 75 people died. (Source "Life Before Birth by P and M Harrison, Futura.) Dundee is like Athens, a city of hills. A world class view can be had from the LAW HILL in the centre of Dundee. You can see the wide majestic silvery River Tay and its two incredibly long bridges. You can see Fife and Tayside, purple hills and dreamy spires, ships and the sea. Dundee is a place for poets and dreamers. Jute used to be brought here from mysterious India. Jam making is connected with the nearby fruit gardens. Journalism means Dundee's D C Thomson and hordes of comic characters. Dundee also means Investment Trusts, and medical research, and universities..... Dundee means the SNP. And William Wallace's old school and a lot of history. WHAT TO SEE? HOW TO GET THERE? Dundee is one of the few places in Scotland that still has a railway station. It's a short hop from London's Kings Cross Dundee is crammed with wonderful evocative Victorian and Edwardian build ings (plus ugly tower blocks which should be torn down). Dundee is a place for walking up and down hills, like in San Francisco. Have a look at the High School and St Paul's Cathedral and Caird Hall. Could be St Petersburg. Camperdown Park has a grand mansion built by Admiral duncan, the victor of Camperdown (after the French Revolution). This is a place of tall trees and ghosts. Caird park has the 16th century Mains of Fintry castle. More ghosts. In the Nethergate, look for the 15th century Old Steeple. Visit HMS Unicorn, built in 1824 (Britain's oldest British warship); tour the DISCOVERY, built for Captain Scott's voyages to Antarctica! Dundee HAS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL GIRLS IN SCOTLAND. True! From Dundee you can visit St Andrews (Where Prince william is going to university) and the beautiful coastal towns of Fife. From Dundee you can visit Arbroath and other fascinating coastal towns in Tayside. WHERE TO STAY? The ANGUS Hotel. or in Broughty Ferry, the Beach House. Eat at the ROYAL OAK, 167 Brook St. www.angusanddundee.co.uk has some details.

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                  Dundee has to be the most filthy, most dull city I've ever had the mis fortune to go to. The streets are full of youths in Kappa track suits who walk in gangs of half a dozen or so and look as if the will cause trouble wherever they go. A plus point would be the shops which for a reasonably big city like Dundee are respectable, the Wellgate Centre has its fair share of bargains but you'll find the shops are full of unfriendly people who are unwilling to help you and as a Welshman I felt most uneasy in their presence. Their really aren't many things that I could say about the city that are good. Camperdown park would make an enjoyable visit for children and I suppose it could be said that there are a few events in the city that happen time to time so at least there is always something to do. All I can say to someone thinking of visiting or staying in Dundee is don't go. Its ugly, dirty, the people aren't hospitable and all in all you are likely to have a most unpleasent visit.

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