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      09.03.2013 14:01

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      Crap fuel consumption. 26 mpg c'mon bmw. It handles ver stiff & visibility is very poor. Not good on slippery icy roads either

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      11.09.2012 23:19
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      All in all the mini is a good car but not recommended for couples with 1 or more children

      The BMW mini is a very reasonable vehicle. both petrol and turbo diesel engine are powerful units and are enough to put a smile on your face, especially a cooper S or SD. One thing i have found disappointing with earlier 2002-2006 cars is that the interior is not aswell built out or made as what the 2007 and later cars are. i wouldn't recommend this car for bumpy back road driving either, the suspension is quite stiff (especially on cooper S and SD models) .

      The engines are reasonably reliable, i've had some troubles with the 1.6 petrol engine before with the cylinder head getting filled up with soot after 60,000 miles which isn't too impressive but the car was a driving instructors vehicle. the diesel units pull very well and are reasonably reliable. Since BMW have taken over the mini company and separated it from rover, some people have said BMW have destroyed the classic mini design which in a way i do believe, but at the same time they have made a modernized version of he car, suitable for modern roads.

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        14.07.2010 23:06
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        I LOVE MY MINI

        I Love my mini, so Ive had 'Graham' for a couple of months, this year mini is 50 years old, same age as me (bold admission there). My first car was a mini, it was old, and resprayed by my dad and a 'C' reg, but I loved it, even though it broke down all the time. So why all these years later do I go backwards and 're-buy my 1st car, well first off it looks extremely sexy. Its a special edition Graphite (hence the name Graham), he's metallic grey, he turns heads all the time, people always comment on him.
        But why did I get him? I had a 6 year old Mondeo, had it from new, it was a family car, it was reliable but huge, manly, and blinking hard to park!!, so family got older, I wanted something for me, test drove everything (FORD :/) and hated them all.
        Then I thought this is for me, so headed for the Mini showroom, hubby said that he knew as soon as I walked in that showroom I had made up my mind, the test drive sealed the deal.
        Im not technical, and I dont really care, all I know is Graham is very economical currently 49 to the gallon, and thats with the air con going. I love the interior, the huge dial gives me a giggle everytime I see it, it reminds me of the old days and the first mini. So many parts of this mini are 'original' with a modern twist, the air con vents for example, and the door storage.
        When chosing my mini, I added a pepper pack, which gave me a package of extras, and gives you a discount on others, and I'm not telling you what they are...coz I cant remember ahaha. This adds value to the resale value as no 2 minis are ever the same.
        Take a look at the cost of second hand minis on the forecourt and they sell themselves....
        AND...... if its the 1st one off the drive I have to hide the keys from hubby!!!, and this is the guy that calls it a hairdressers car.......yeah right!!!HANDS OFF
        So dont listen to him when he says 'you wont get the weekly shop in', dont worry ladies, get it delivered!!!!, but seriously you can, just fold down the seats, you can get 2 weeks in!!!
        So do you get it yet? I LOVE MY MINI, I even wash it every week, thats a first!!!

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        11.06.2010 18:48

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        great fun

        This is a wonderful car! My dad recently bought a mini one to downsize from our old estate car enabling me to drive to college with my brother and to be his taxi service for a change! This car is an absolute godsend for me, not only does it run like a charm, but it is also surprisingly fuel efficient, costing only £35 for a full tank of petrol which in the past has taken me up to 400 miles from home! Perhaps not surprisingly, the mini one is also incredibly compact, enabling me to park in tiny spaces and monouver myself between my friends poor parking with minimal problems. However, this sometimes causes slight discomfort when all my friends pile in with their bags for a weekend away! The ipod connector is also great for me, enabling my brother to fiddle with the music direct from the ipod whilst we make our way to school. We got our mini second hand (but still only 9 months old!) and i cant see it causing me any troubles any time soon!

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        14.03.2010 15:03
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        I'm on a life long Mini adventure!

        i was always a huge fan of Mini's but when i was 18 I needed a car that was fast and reliable enough to withstand a weekly commute to visit my boyfriend, travelling from Durham to Manchester. I had visions of the old Mini conking out and don't managing the motorways so I was very lucky to get a new BMW MINI One. I am now 25 and I have my 3rd Mini One and I am still very much in love with Mini's.

        My review is purely a 25 year old girls feeling and not super technical ...

        I love the shape of the Mini. It is chunky and wide and grips the road like a dream. If we get any more snow or icy roads you will see what I mean, it handles like a dream. It comes in many colours (I have Indie Blue, then black and Black again) I always go for metallic to get the extra shine and protection. I also get a transfer on the roof to make my car that bit more individual, these can be custom made or the choice in store is great I get the silver union jack for my black Mini, similarly I get matching plastic small panels around my external indicator lights. Basically the car is great for customising and making your own. This does cost extra but is worth it.

        I have a 'salt' pack in my car which is a bunch of added extras. The best thing being small coloured lights in my car by the handles, reading light etc which you can change colour. I did have blue but prefer the pink ones. You change the colour by a simple click on a button. This is part of the internal computer system which is a small round dial, like the speed dial which tells you digital mph, miles left til you need to refuel, temperature and time.

        The bucket seats are comfortable and classy. I love the huge speed dial in the middle of the car (not the right hand side). It's very retro. There is a secret compartment built in above the front passenger 'cubby hole' cupboard to hide your sat nav and ipod etc.

        The boot is a little small but is expected for a car that size. However it's easy enough to drop the back seats if extra room is required.

        Overall there is loads of extras you can buy to make this car individual and unique. It starts at around £10k for a basic model but you usually pay more with extra's. New Mini's come with 3 years parts and labour and I got a free £250 photography voucher when I bought mine. It is a reliable car and very nice to drive. The brakes are very responsive and the 6 gears chunky and firm. I will be buying another when i've had mine 3 years and the warranty runs out.

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          17.01.2010 14:25

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          Looks great - good performance

          I do not profess to be a car expert so apologies for those looking for a technical review. However, I can tell you about my experiences with the mini and how I have found it to drive.

          Firstly it looks fantastic. I had mine new as a company car in 2008, so I have had it for a year and a half. I opted for the British Racing Green, a traditional classic colour. The only qualms is the dashboard. I personally hate the big speedometer but it is possible to change settings so there is also a digital speedometer on the dashboard.

          Performance - so far my mini has been completely reliable. I have had not problems and have already driven nearly 30,000 miles. The engine is 1.4 litre, which is very nippy when you are in the car on your own. However, as soon as there is a passenger |particularly someone in the back it loses a lot of power. The boot is actually bigger than I expected and the seats can be pushed down for more room.

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          04.01.2010 17:32
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          A small car for someone who prioritises driving pleasure, design and residuals.

          I bought my MINI One brand new in March 2009 as a replacement for an ageing BMW 318is that was costing me a fortune to run. I looked carefully at a number of cars. My requirements were fuel economy, build quality, handling and residual values. When it comes to the latter, the MINI is an easy choice. Provided you don't buy a poverty-spec model, you can expect up to 60% of its value back after 3 years.

          The Pepper Pack (around £1k, but normally discounted) is a must. It includes air con, extra trim, lighting, mats etc. You will suffer on resale if you don't opt for the Pepper Pack. I was conscious of being a bloke and buying a MINI One, but I haven't encountered anything but compliments. (And before you ask, no, I'm not, but there's nothing wrong with that anyway, even if I was...!!!).

          This is the newer, revised version of BMW's MINI with an uprated body shape, higher shoulder line, less fussy exterior, revised interior and upgraded engine and gearbox. The engine is lighter and fitted with stop-start technology plus regenerative braking. This improves on economy. I do a 32 mile round trip each day, including a motorway, a steep hill and some A-roads. I can average around 44mpg and that doesn't require me to drive Miss Daisy. It's around 360-370 miles to a 40 litre tank. Granted, if you put your foot down, the mpg will drop, like any car. And that's a pity, because the 95 bhp 1400cc engine comes alive above 3000rpm and loves to be revved.

          The gearbox is tight and provides precise, short shifts. Sixth gear helps on the motorway with 70mph coming in at 2,700 rpm. Overtaking requires a change-down to fourth to avoid embarrassment. It's at those times that I start wishing I'd found the cash for a cooper (120bhp 1600cc), or better still, the cooper D.

          Apart from the occasional lack of power, the car is still great fun to drive. While I'm not mad about the quirky interior (at least it's idiosyncratic and not anonymous), I love the driving position. Purposeful and engaging. It clings on to corners like a sports car. You'll give up before the grip does. My car has optional sports seats and 16" wheels, which add a bit of occasion to the car, but don't ruin the ride. BEWARE 17" wheels - you'll need a good osteopath and you can say goodbye to your healthy mpg.

          There is no other small car that will match the MINI for overall handling and composure. You have to start buying high-spec, heavily depreciating fiestas, polos, 500's, clios, corsas etc before you can match the sense of fun that's built into even the most basic MINI.

          Practicality should not be a factor when buying one of these. It's a surprise that after nearly 10 years of manufacture, people are still griping about the size of the boot or the rear seats. Yes, a week's shopping will completely fill the boot to breaking point. Yes, room is tight in the rear, but this is the nature of this car and it never was marketed to young families. I tend to put most of the shopping in the boot and the rest in the back. To be honest, I've taken people all over the North East and once in the back, the bucket-shaped seats aren't too bad. The overriding impression from passengers is the novelty of the shape and interior. As an owner, you get used to the car after a while, but to many others it's still a niche product with some kudos.

          As for this disproportionate outcry from the classic car brigade - you ask any BMW MINI hater which car they'd rather drive their kid to school in - the classic, but outdated Rover mini or the 21st century MINI with its 8 airbags, crumple zones, ABS, EBD, traction control,sports suspension and 5 star Euro NCAP rating?

          One of my main disappointments stems from the very design that makes the car special. The interior, while attractive and 98% well built, seems to have some inherent rattles that are starting to drive me nuts. I've been in plenty of other small cars, which suffer the same problems, but this is a premium model, not a sub 10K compact city car. The sheer variety of plastics and console fittings have inevitably resulted in the odd creak and groan, which I need to have looked at. My fear is that if BMW mess with the dash they'll only end up replacing one rattle with another. We'll see how this goes. Passengers usually can't pick up on this, but I'm in the car every day. The paint and windscreen chip very easily too, but that's mainly down to the motorway.

          Overall, the car looks good (especially in a metallic shade with a light tint on the rear windows, plus chrome wing mirrors) and it handles well. I'm getting decent economy and pay only £120 road tax. The servicing is all covered for 5 years with the TLC pack at just £150. The stereo plays mp3's and has an aux input for iPods etc, but it could do with a bit more kick. The stop-start button and round key insert are intuitive and add extra security too. The seats and steering wheel adjust well, as does the A/C and interior lighting.

          I'd recommend this car to anyone seeking fun, stress-free (relatively), stylish motoring with a mind to getting some return on their investment. A cooper, cooper D or cooper S would be nice, but the One shows the capability of the MINI in it's basic form. It will only disappoint those who drag large bags and passengers around regularly and anyone who only rates cars on tyre-shredding straight-line performance.

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          05.12.2009 20:36

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          looks great

          I have a mini Cooper S convertable. The roof goes up and down in 4 seconds which is great in this british weather. It goes like a rocket Im never left at the trafic lights. It has a heavey well built feel in the inside nothing like the old mini I had a teenager, This is a difrent car all together. It is manual a gear box. Very easy to drive The bad points is that it has a life of its own on bumpy road and can be difficult to handle. It is also very wide and can be surprising when parking. Insurance is expensive to insure. space is tight the back is only really big enough for children. The boot is also very small so when you do the weekly shop you need to go alone cus you need the rest of the car for storage. this is a great car for a couple or single person if they can afford the insurance.

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          30.11.2009 23:45
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          Right, here goes....

          I have had my car for 2 and a half years and I really like it but it is not without its downsides. I really don't know too much about cars so this will be a frank account of my experiences, but it probably won't be too technical.

          I really like my MINI. He is cute and called COCO (not after chanel!) and is red with a white union jack roof and white bonnet stripes. He looks good, he drives well, he is reliable and he makes me feel safe on the road. It has a 1.6 litre engine and this makes it relatively powerful and it can reach high speeds when necessary. The handling is realy good in my opinion, it just goes round corners as if it is on rails and the steering is amazingly responsive and quick.

          On the bad side, he isnt too cheap to insure (£600ish for the year) and is not very good on petrol, servicing and parts are very expensive. For example, to buy a new bumper, not fitted or painted, would cost £480 which for a piece of plastic, is outrageous. I know this because I almost ripped it off by driving over a tree thing. Not good times.

          The mini is a very hard, 'sporty' ride which is not very confortable over long journeys and my grandparents are not very confortable in the car.
          The car also is not very spacious. I mean it is kind of explained by the name of the car but for any passengers in the back, there really is not a lot of legroom. (unless you sit behind me, but I have little legs)
          The car is pretty big spacewise and we have managed to really cram it before, if there are only 2 people in because the back seats fold down really quickly and easily.

          The car has 4 seats and the back ones are really nice and buckety if you like that. I also like the little storage spaces in the back but find that the backs of the front seats get fairly scratched easily from peoples feet and things.

          I do really like this car, don't get me wrong but it is not overly practical and you are paying a lot for the design and the kudos of having the car. I think it is a bit of a hairdressers car, but my boyfriend also drives the car and looks pretty good in it, so I don't think this is really an issue.

          Also, because of the flag it is easy to find in the carpark! but it has a low flat roof so it is quite little and can be hard to see!

          Buy this car if you are rich and like the status symbol but next time I get a car I will get something more practical and economical! (I got this one for my birthday by the way so I didn't choose it)

          also on carpress.com

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          01.06.2009 23:12
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          Great car great fun

          I bought a Mini One back in 2005 for my wife, its the first time i have ever bought a brand new car and its also the first time ive ever seen my wife excited by a car.

          Like alot of BMW cars we had to pay for any extras, we didnt go nuts but we got the roof black and the main paintwork is like an off white. It looks very smart. I paid to get the pepper pack which gives fog lights carpets etc and i also got black seats which looked good.

          The final extra i got was an automatic gearbox which has manual flaps on the stearing wheel with a sports mode.

          The drive is great, it really holds the road and when i get the odd chance to have a shot i always feel that it wants to be driven on winding roads and pushed on a bit.

          It feels solid and has a typical BMW feel to it. It is a quality made car.

          We also took out the TLC service pack which is worth the cost i think it was about £430 for 3 years servicing.

          The only down side is its very heavy on the fuel due to it being an auto and for such a small car it has a huge turning circle. The kids also feel a bit cramped in the back. I think all in all we paid about £13500

          Overall we both love it.

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          24.07.2008 19:19
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          Fun for short journeys, but not an all round capable car.

          The new Mini, its a cute looking car, a fashion car, like the new Beetle. Is it more about style than substance??

          Its all quite well put together, very stylish. Some areas of trim are a bit flimsy though. Its great fun to drive on short journeys, lovely sharp steering, responsive handling. But on a longer journey, its tiring, that ride, oh, its just too firm and fidgets all time, you constantly have to correct the steering, after an hour its pretty tiring.

          Something like a boring Ford Focus copes with a motorway journey so much better.

          Spacious? well not really, up in the front is OK, but the back seats are a joke and the boot is only suitable for a few designer carrier bags. There seems to be a lot of wasted space with a massive dashboard.

          The Chrysler engine, built in Brazil, is actually pretty good, its quite responsive and has a pleasant exhaust note, the same cant be said for the gearbox. The gears have a pleasant short change, but isnt the g'box noisy? Especially from cold start, it whines like mad, almost as bad as the old Austin Mini. I've heard quite a few owners have had the gearboxes changed under warranty.

          So all in all, a mixed bag, fun to drive on short trips, cute to look at, expensive and not without a few problems.

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          14.01.2008 22:48
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          A great iconic car.

          I love my mini and certainly BMW have done a great job of bringing back this classic car, mine is just over three years old and I bought t for £4,000 about a year ago from a friend.

          The interior is nice and stylish with a big retro dial in the center of the dash board which is easy to read what ever your driving position. The rest of the interior is well designed with clean lines and an eye for detail. I find the seats really comfortablke as well and it is a smooth ride, the longest drive I have done without a stop was a two hour trip that included both motorway and highway driving and it was very comfortable with absolutely no aches or pains or stiffness.

          The real thrill with this car is the driving experience, because the front end is so small and you sit nice and low on the road then there is a great sensation of speed, forty miles an hour feels more like sixty and the only real draw back with this car is the risk of losing your licence through speeding fines so you have towatch out for the speed cameras.

          In the town is handles really well, it is small so parking is easy with good peripheral vision all round, I find the clutch really smooth so it is good in congestion and although the gear box is quite closely set up it is easy to get used to and just adds to the whole sporty feel of the car as you rattle through the gear box when building up acceleration.

          On the open road it handles like a dream, the cornering is excellent and it feels as though it is stuck to the road, the 1.6 engine provides 90 bhp which in a small car means it has great acceleration and is competent when it comes to over taking. The only time I find a weakness with this car is on the motorway as you can feel a slight wobble kick in when it hits the high eighties. Other than that the steering is really responsive and it corners well especially on ong sweeping bends where it really hugs the road.

          Fuel consumption is good, I reckon on getting 50 mpg on the open road and slightly less in the towns, also a friend does the servicing which works out at £99 a time so itis a cheap car to maintain.

          In terms of other features the heating system is good and the CD player is the original one and has good sound quality. There is limited storage space and certainly the boyfriend finds it a bit small but then he is six foot three, for a shortie like me the car is ideal although the space in the back of the car has limited leg room and the boot can just about handle a weekend bag and not a lot more.

          This is a great little car and a lot of fun to drive.

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            09.06.2003 19:29
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            Having been borrowing my girlfriends car while she was holiday without her knowing i think im going to suggest that she swaps me with my skodia.The BMW Mini One has been a deserved success, unlike other "lifestyle" cars (such as the VW Beetle and Tigra) it offers more than a fancy body on standard hatchback. As a driving experience it stands head and shoulders above them and the steering, brakes and handling all inspire confidence. Many have commented that it is not the true successor to the Mini because it not truely innovative and it is too large to be called a Mini. I thought this was true until I started driving it and the Cooper version. It takes most of the fun parts of driving the old mini and then adds in safety, refinement and comfort. The real cost of getting a Mini One on the road is around £11,200 This gives you Alloys, Metallic Paint and the Salt Package (Foglamps, Revcounter and the glossy interior finish) as used in almost every photo. A lot of the safety equipment such as traction and dynamic stability control are optional extras too. It would not be difficult to push the Mini One up to £14,000 - £15,000 if you chose all the options. You could regard the Mini as an expensive small car or a cheap route into a stylish, and classy motoring world where journeys are made just for the fun of driving. This car has that rare "x factor" that will mark it a future classic.

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              It took me a whole week to understand why I was so popular, it did eventually dawn on me (having finally read the MINI owner?s manual) that I was now part of the MINI owners club, not being somebody who is used to waving at complete strangers I picked it up surprisingly quickly. I absolutely love my new MINI!!! My last car was a new Ford KA Luxury with leather seats, air conditioning, alloys, etc and at £8,500 was brilliant value for money and I thought it was fantastic ? that is until I had my first taste of the new MINI at the Motor show in 2000 ? wow!!!! MINI has done something with their car that no other manufacturer has managed to do; give it a personality. The old mini was a part of so many people?s lives; most people over 45 have driven the old mini, so BMW had a big job when they took on the MINI project. BMW were always going to have to deal with the extreme old mini enthusiasts that believe they have ruined an institution all I can say to them is that they?ve either never driven the new car or are too antiquated and stubborn to recognise progress. Having never being in the old mini I took the new car at face value and judged it on that basis. The first impression of the MINI is that it?s not very ?mini? its more maxi. Its larger size gives it a feeling of solidness which I personally am grateful for considering the old mini?s that I?ve seen squished to bits in accidents. The second is the trendy interior; it?s certainly different from any other car in its class and not at all dull. The MINI one is £10,405 on the road and has a 1.6 litre engine, which will do 0-62 mph in 10.9 seconds and is group 5e insurance. The level of standard equipment is great: 4 airbags, Anti-lock-brake system, Electric windows, remote central locking, Power steering etc plus I purchased ?TLC? for £100 which means I will receive 5 years worth or servicing ? fantastic!!! I deify you to drive this car and
              not to fall head over heels in love with it. I?m just about to order my next MINI and can?t wait for the convertible version.

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                Hmmm, the MINI One. I knew the old Mini really well, when I was 18, me and my brother stripped the engine from his 1967 Morris Mini Mk2 and rebuild it. We loved that car, it was really his car but I admit I was jealous. Sure it had its faults but this was seat of your pants motoring, 30 mph felt like 90mph and it would handle like it was on rails. It was cheap accessible motoring fun if you were on a budget. For me, it wasn't the Italian Job that gave it kudos, it was a fabled race between a Ferrari and a Monte Carlo Cooper works Mini. The Mini couldn't beat the Ferrari in a straight line but it did easily on the twists and turns of the Turin proving tracks. The Mini won. Enzo Ferrari was reported to say 'If it wasn't so ugly, I'd give up making cars for good.' Now we have the new Mini, designed by an American, a Latin American engine, built with German money and a German car company by British car workers after one hell of a argument and the near demise of Britain's last car manufacturer. And my girlfriend likes it too. So I told her it was a blot on the Mini name but she was having none of it, she doesn't even like the film the Italian Job but the new MINI looks cute in red apparently. I must admit, it has a certain retro charm but none of the innovation that led to so many imitators from the original Mini. Do I drive it? Yes I have put on a few hundred or so miles when we've taken her car for a weekend away and she didn't feel like driving home. Typical ;) Well, it was a good job it was a weekend away as the boot is tiny. The original boot wasn't great either but this Mini is much larger. It easily breaks Mini design credo 1, no car should be longer than 10 feet. This is. It's not really much smaller than a Ford Focus, my sister's boyfriend has one of those and it has a much bigger boot. So, I'm sat in this car, I'm 5' 10'
                ;' and it is relatively comfortable to sit in. The pedals are shifted to the left a bit and so is the wheel from dead centre of my body. In typical small car fashion the pdeals are quite tiny, they will not suit broad feet. I clipped the brake pedal putting my foot down on the clutch. The seats are somewhat adjustable but the lumber support is awful. The dash is retro Mini, big central dial. This was done to save money in the original not a design feature, this is pointless and I wasn't use to it. The rest of the switches were good and the fogs were well labelled for example. Because of the speedo and as it is noiser inside than I am used to I could drive it on revs alone. Incidentally, the dash is the only part of the car design by a Brit. Rover inherited the rest of the car design from Munich after much bitter recrimination about the engineering and the subsequent BMW straitjacket placed on them as a result. The engine is lively enough but then it should be, this is a 1.6L lump! developing an so-so 90bhp but it's noisy to make progress and requires some nifty electronics to manage economy (more later) It is nippy enough to propel the Mini quickly and I have to say this is the most fun you will get as close to the original, the suspension has obviously be given a lot of though, it is pliant when needed but has enough stiffness to handle tight bends at speed. I must admit to a big smile reapplying power coming out of a chevroned turn as I slingshot it out of the bend. But then, this thing has a version of BMW's Z-axle at the rear, the one thing BMW have done is place most of the weight of the car over the front wheels offering about a 60:40 split. It's a good job, it really feels like a heavy car. The handling is great though and the power steering is very clever to, only switched on when needed (like parking). The stereo isn't bad either but the BMW bumf said 'it was engineered specifically for the
                MINI's interior acoustics'. This means liberal use of speakers in a small area. If you've ever driven a new MINI with the stereo switched off, you'll know why. The road roar off the tyres is quite loud as is wind noise at speed. As this is regarded as 'white' noise, it is easily muffled by some well positioned speakers ;) But it's the rest of it, for the size of it, it is cramped when this thing has the same wheelbase as a Landrover Discovery. You will not get two adults in the back without a 'can we stop to stretch our legs?' after an hour. All in all, yes it is fun to sling it about a bit but at over £10,000 and in the practicality stakes against performance I'd rather have seen her go for a few grand more, a secondhand Lotus Elise. But that's my preference and they are hard to find in red apparently. She's had it eight months, put 4,000 miles on it and its been recalled twice and also in the garage as well. Remember the smart electronics unit I mentioned? Somehow and don't ask me how, this thing got wet and it fused, no go at all and a two week wait for a repair. Luckily she'd taken the care package and it was under warranty but wet electrics!!!???. Maybe somethings don't change and this is something closer to the original Mini. Other than that, this is style over content. If anyone bought the Mini Cooper and paid the four grand premium, did you know apart from the trim changes, the only difference in performance is a remapped ECU chip, available to a Mini One as a retrofit for £400. Like I say style over content and I know another car that everyone went 'Ahhh! Isn't it cute?' about..... The revised Beetle. Thing is, would you be seen dead in one of those now? That to me is where the new Mini will end up. Shame really but that's BMW's problem not mine.

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